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AMOS Mailing List FAQ
Updated June 1, 1995 by Michael Cox (aj639@cleveland.freenet.edu)
(Items marked with ^ are new since last submission)
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Part I RULES OF THE MAILING LIST
1. To subscribe or unsubscribe send the message to either me or
amos-request@access.digex.net. DO NOT send them to the amos-list
address. Put SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message
so I know what you want.
2. Do NOT mail files larger than 4kb to the list as some people pay for
the size of messages. If you want to distribute a file that is larger
than 4kb:
a) upload it to Aminet and post an announcement to the
list
b) email it to me and I will upload it to Aminet
c) post a message to the list asking who wants it mailed to them
and then mail it to those who give permission
3. Arguments over anything should be done via private email.
4. If a message to you is returned undeliverable, I will check the reason
why and then decide if I should delete you from the list. So, if you
do not get messages for 2 days in a row, email me and I will let you
know what has happened.
5. No messages about pirating, removing protection from demos, etc. I
don't have time to be a policeman, so let's try to be self-policing!
Part II COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT AMOS
1) What is AMOS?
AMOS is a BASIC language. It has many more commands than AmigaBASIC
and can let you do more powerful things so it is a Superset of BASIC. If you
can program in BASIC, you can code in AMOS. I think AMOS stands for AMiga
Operating System but do not quote me on it!
AMOS is an interpreted language but you can buy the Compiler for it
which will let you compile your programs into an AmigaDOS executable. Then
you can distribute your program without its source. Obviously, compiled
programs are much faster. If you do not want to pay for the Compiler you can
still distribute your programs using a runtime version of AMOS called RAMOS.
2) What is AMOS Pro and Easy AMOS?
Well, first a bit of history. AMOS The Creator (AMOS) came first.
Then, Easy AMOS was developed. Finally, less than a year ago (Oct 1992)
AMOS Professional (Pro) was released.
AMOS The Creator was first designed to be like the Atari's STOS but
when Lionet saw how the Amiga was more powerful than the Atari he revamped it
and made it a pure Amiga product. In the beginning AMOS and the manual were
rough and found it hard to get along with all Amigas. However, due to the
policy of free updates, AMOS is much more friendly to the AmigaOS. The manual
has not been updated so do not be surprised to find 'undocumented' commands and
features.
Easy AMOS was designed to help introduce beginner programmers to AMOS
and programming. A few commands were removed from AMOS and a better user
interface was created to make the environment as friendly as possible. Also,
the manual was designed with the beginner in mind and is more of a tutorial
than a reference manual.
AMOS Professional was designed with the professional coder in mind.
The environment was revamped and made even better than Easy AMOS. It has a
cleaner look with a better editor. Also, many new commands were added, making
it the most complex of the 3. For those who have been with AMOS since its
Creator days, you will know that Pro is much more friendlier to the AmigaOS
and to machines with differing configurations.
NOTE: Europress *AND* Francois Lionet have dropped all support for AMOS at this
^time. AMOS Pro was on a coverdisk. Source code may be released to a
small group for updating/fixing. We shall have to wait and see.
3) What is the latest versions?
As of March 6, 1994, they are:
AMOS The Creator v1.36
AMOS Compiler v1.36
AMOS Professional v2.0
AMOS Pro Compiler v2.0
4) Where can I get the updates?
There are many ways:
a) via FTP on all Aminet sites under dev/amos
b) If you do not have FTP access, I can uuencode it and
email it to you
c) If you live in the USA, you can send me a disk and one
32 cent stamp for return postage and I will snail mail
it to you. Email me for my Snail Mail address.
If anyone knows of any other ways, please let me know so I can add it to the
list.
To update to AMOS Pro v2.0, you must buy the Pro Compiler. I have not seen or
heard of any other way, so please correct me if I am wrong.
5) What extension slots are being used?
AMOS AMOS Pro
1+ Music or EME v4.64 Music or EME v4.64
2 Compact v1.2 Picture Compactor v2.00
3 Request v1.41 Requester v2.00
4 3D v1.00 3D v1.02AP
5 Compiler v1.36 Pro Compiler v2.00
6 Serial v1.2 IO Devices v2.00
7 TOME v4.24
8 CText v2.5
9 Range (AMOS Club Ext.) v2.8
10 Dump Lib
10 LDos v2.5 LDos v2.5
11 LSer v2.1 LSer v2.1
12 TURBO PLUS v1.0 TURBO PLUS v1.0
^14- Intuition v1.3 Intuition v1.3
15 DSAM v???? DSAM v????
16* EasyLife v1.4b EasyLife v1.4b
18 CRAFT v1.00 CRAFT v1.00
19 MusiCRAFT v1.00 MusiCRAFT v1.00
20-* AMOS OS Interface v3.4 AMOS OS Interface v3.4
21* PRT_Extension v1.1 PRT_Extension v1.1
22* JD_Extension v4.6 JD_Extension v4.6
(+ = EME is Enhanced Music Extension and is a replacement of the Music.Lib)
(- = These are 2 Intuition extensions. Extension #14 is by Andrew Church and
is excellently easy!)
(* = Not official as far as I know, so the numbers may change)
(NOTE: Andrew's Intuition extension is now OFFICIAL! Also, v1.3 will be
released either the week of the Feb 6 or Feb 13.)
Please send me any corrections or additions.
6) What programs on the Internet are written in AMOS?
These files are on Aminet:
Filename Location Size Description
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3DAmosDemo.lha dev/amos 11K+AMOS demo source of 3D game
acomp136.dms dev/amos 503K+Update AMOS Compiler to v1.36
Amastermind.lha game/think 124K+Mastermind type game written in AMOS. V1.1
amos-list.lha dev/amos 122K+Archive containing AMOS related e-mail dis
AMOS-PD-CD.txt docs/rview 5K REVIEW: AMOS PD CD
Amos.guide02.lha dev/amos 64K+A amigaguide help file for amos v0.2
amos136.dms dev/amos 570K+Update your version of AMOS to 1.36
amos92.dms dev/amos 576K+AMOS Programs from Amiga Computing.
AMOSClubUK.lha dev/amos 12K+How North American AMOS coders can join
AMOSList-0694.lzh dev/amos 39K+Messages about AMOS during June 1994
AMOSList-0794.lzh dev/amos 112K+Messages about AMOS during July 1994
AMOSList-0894.lzh dev/amos 177K+Messages about AMOS during August 1994
AMOSList-0994.lzh dev/amos 132K+Messages about AMOS during September 1994
AMOSList-1094.lzh dev/amos 160K+Messages about AMOS during October 1994
AMOSList0993.lzh dev/amos 335K+Archive of messages in September 93 on the
AMOSMEDPlayer.lha dev/amos 54K MED player for AMOS
AmosMultiEnv11.lha dev/amos 37K+Select a .Env file on loading AMOS - Updat
amosopal.lha gfx/board 12K+AMOS Extension to access Opal.library.
AMOSPro-demo.dms biz/demo 550K BASIC like compiler language w/ gfx suppor
amosutil.lha dev/amos 2K+Small AMOS tools
Amos_ADTS.lha dev/amos 31K+Add Abstract Data type Support to Amos
amos_modplay3.lha mus/play 108K+MOD. music player coded in AMOS
amtudemo.lha dev/amos 68K+Demo of AMTUITION, allows simulation of In
Am_Mui10.lha dev/amos 65K+ Use MUI from AMOSPro
Am_Mui10.lha dev/amos 65K+Use MUI from AMOSPro
APME12.lha dev/amos 39K+Multiple Envoironments For AMOS Pro V1.12/
APME13.lha dev/amos 39K+Multiple Env's For AMOSPro - Update
apro112.dms dev/amos 641K+PD Upgrade disk to v1.12 of AMOS Pro
bootcontroller10.lha disk/misc 63K+ Password protection for hard dis
chaneques_1.lha game/think 416K+Great puzzle game,good gfx,Disk 1/2,Amos
chaneques_2.lha game/think 397K+Great puzzle game,good gfx,Disk 2,Amos
ChooseEnv.lha dev/amos 7K+Select a .Env file on loading AMOS
CLR_Licenseware.lha dev/amos 23K+How to buy CLR Licenseware in North Americ
codefinder.lha game/think 90K+ Mastermind type game
EasyLife.lha dev/amos 18K+A New AMOS Extension
EasyLife14b.lha dev/amos 33K+Easylife Extension for AMOSPro + More
fleetv1.lha game/think 264K+Tactical Starship Combat hex map game
FSelExt.lha dev/amos 1K+FSel Extension Procedures for AMOS and AMO
Grafik.lha gfx/fract 52K+Fractal-Pattern-Generator in AMOS
gridloc.lha misc/sci 48K+(AMOS) Amateur Radio grid square calc
helpacc.lha dev/amos 65K+Add online help to AMOS v1.3x
HomeAccountant11.lha biz/misc 115K New Look/V1.1 with Source in AMOS 1.34
IDCMP.lha dev/amos 6K+Amos and Intuition.
jdlib4_6.lha dev/amos 269K+Add lots of commands to AMOS Pro! Extensio
Knights2.4.lha game/role 236K+Two-player violent dungeon bashing
ldosv25d.lha dev/amos 75K new AMOS-commands. ARexx and MORE!
lserv25d.lha dev/amos 37K new serial for AMOS. With XPR-support!
mapcreator.lha dev/amos 7K+Generates 2D overhead view terrain maps
MatrixBlaster.lha game/misc 299K TRON Light Cycles in AMOS
mazegen.lha dev/amos 60K+Generate mazes for use with AMOS
mimic.lha game/misc 101K+ Simon type game for workbench
MOPSdentro.dms demo/mega 724K A dentro and a demo by MOPS of France
NFLStats12.lha biz/dbase 116K+V1.21 of NFL Stats. Fixed over V1.20
NTSC_PAL.lha dev/amos 5K+NTSC<>PAL switcher accessory for AMOSPro !
Othello.lha dev/amos 3K+A conversion of the board game OTHELLO
Patgendemo.lha gfx/fract 90K+Pattern Generator V1.0 Demo - Written in A
PH_PROGS.lha dev/amos 11K+Five short usefull AMOS source programs
PongTourney1.0.lha game/misc 118K+Pre-release of AMOS Pong game.
ppAccessory10.lha dev/amos 43K*A set of AMOS Professional Accessory progr
ProcLib3.0.lha dev/amos 64K+A library of AMOS procedures
projlist.txt dev/amos 24K+List of current projects by Amos users on
RainMaker2Demo.lha dev/amos 37K AMOS utility for making rainbows
roach.dms game/jump 292K+Platform game written in AMOS
RUEDA.lha game/misc 188K Wheel of Fortune Game--GREAT GFX+SOUND
SampleBankEdit.lha dev/amos 103K+Requires EasyLife Extension
scrabble.lha game/2play 387K*Amiga Scrabble For 2-4 players. Great!
screenedv22.lha dev/amos 91K+Good AMOS(pro) ScreenEd for games ect...
secrets.lha util/crypt 48K+SECRETS v0.1, Encrypter made in AMOS. BETA
siit.lha dev/amos 85K+Icon editor for use with AMOS(pro)
SRM-V2_2.lha dev/amos 17K+An upgrade to the Resource Bank Maker
stars.lha dev/amos 7K+AGA Supporting AMOS extension with starfie
stormcrunch2.lha dev/amos 91K+AMOS cruncher for files/executables (AMOS!
strong1.lha dev/amos 94K+Demo using TURBO in AMOS
swarm.lha dev/amos 56K+Swarm! lines fly to mouse pointer - very c
tamelibs.lha dev/amos 21K+Addendum to amos92.dms for TAME
TBSdemo9.lha dev/amos 106K+AMOS Bob/Sprite editor.
tscene1.lha dev/amos 147K+Demo of scene/map editor with TURBO Plus
turbo1.lha dev/amos 103K+Demo of TURBO Plus. Includes full list of
turbo19.lha dev/amos 89K+TURBO extension for AMOS Pro!
TV125b.lha game/jump 154K+TechnoVenture v1.25b (Platform game)
VarCheck101.lha dev/amos 11K+ Update to easylife variable checker
ZoneEditor3.lha dev/amos 65K*Includes Editor Enhancer.
ZoneEditorAMOS.lha dev/amos 17K+A New AMOS Accessory
^airTaxi.lha game/2play 486K+AirTaxi, SpaceTaxi clone for 25MHz+, 1m+ c
^AMOS.txt docs/rview 13K*Programmer: AMOS: The Creator
^AMOS3D.txt docs/rview 8K*Programmer: AMOS 3D and Compiler
^AMOSList-0195.lzh dev/amos 167K+Messages about AMOS during January 1995
^AMOSList-1194.lzh dev/amos 253K+Messages about AMOS during November 1994
^AMOSList-1294.lzh dev/amos 97K+Messages about AMOS during December 1994
^AMOSProfession.txt docs/rview 6K*Programmer: Amos Professional
^amosutil.lha dev/amos 2K*Small AMOS tools
^Atoms3.lha game/misc 66K+Faster, more options, AI opponents, etc.
^Atoms3a.lha game/misc 68K+Binary for AGA machines *sigh*
^atoms3b.lha game/misc 68K+Binary for PAL AGA machines *sigh*
^ColConqII_v11.lha game/think 342K+V1.1 of complex space strategy game.
^Exit16v2.lha game/think 103K+Simple puzzle game written in AMOS.
^InterfaceDesgn.lha dev/amos 46K+User-interface-designer for amospro. v1.0
^Jump.lha game/think 106K+A AMOS-Game in german...
^laby.lha dev/amos 47K+A simply labyrinth-maker in AMOS (German)
^MegaBlock2.lha game/think 371K+Best ever Amiga "Tetris" type game for all
^Memory.lha game/think 56K+Memory-Game in AMOS (Trimory-Version, germ
^SRMv23.lha dev/amos 45K+An upgrade to the Resource Bank Maker
^tetronv14.lha game/misc 123K Tetron 1.4 (Alchemy Software Developme
^TTT.lha game/think 48K+Tic-Tac-Toe in AMOS (V0.6, german)
Please email me with changes, adds, deletions, etc.
7) What AMOS clubs are there besides the AMOS UK club run by Aaron Fothergill?
Here is some info, furnished by Ryan Scott (rscott@gate.net):
Klub AMOS France
DP 133
18003 Bourges
Cedex France
++(33) 482 48375 FAX
Contact is Denis Bernard. I don't know what they do exactly.
Australian AMOS Club
PO Box 168
Willoughby Australia
NSW 2068
+61 2 528 2645 voice/FAX
Publish an excellent newsletter 4 x a year, have large PD library and
active users. Wayne Johnson is the editor.
The Mr AMOS Club
8 Magnolia Park
Dunmurry
BT17 ODS
Northern Ireland
0232 626694
Excellent AMOS support in the UK and elsewhere. Provided by Brian Bell,
Mr AMOS himself. Publish an excellent disk magazine, and has PD.
The AMOS Club USA
PO Box 11434
Milwaukee WI 53211
Publish a bi-monthly newsletter. Mark Schultz, editor. Have AMOS PD.
Totally AMOS and the
Official AMOS PD Library
17 Wick Farm Road
St Lawrence Bay
Nr Southminster
Essex CM0 7PF UK
Publish Totally AMOS disk magazine, maintain the only 'official' AMOS PD
library with APD disks totalling over 600. Run by Anne Tucker, and Len
Tucker.
8) RUMORS
Brian Bell's Mr. AMOS Club (listed in section 7) were apparently robbed right
after they moved into a new building and did not have insurance. They lost
5000pounds worth of equipment and have had to sell the rights to Charlie Chimp
I and II, and Spacefighter to get some minimal equipment. Their PD disk has
stoppped as of issue 6. No word as to whether or not they will start again.
9) BOOKS
AMOS IN ACTION by Len Tucker. Published by KUMA.
AMIGA GAME MAKER'S MANUAL by Stephen Hill. Published by SIGMA.
ULTIMATE AMOS by Jason Holborn. Published by Amiga Format (Future)
10) AmiNet Sites
Country Machine Name IP address Directory
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USA (MO) ftp.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 pub/aminet/
USA (TX) ftp.etsu.edu 192.43.199.20 pub/aminet/
USA (WI) ftp.netnet.net 198.70.64.3 pub/aminet/
Scandinavia ftp.luth.se 130.240.18.2 pub/aminet/
Switzerland ftp.eunet.ch 146.228.10.16 pub/aminet/
Switzerland ftp.math.ethz.ch 129.132.104.6 pub/aminet/
Switzerland litamiga.epfl.ch 128.178.151.32 pub/aminet/ (*)
Germany ftp.uni-paderborn.de 131.234.2.32 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.uni-erlangen.de 131.188.3.2 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.uni-bielefeld.de 129.70.4.55 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.uni-oldenburg.de 134.106.40.9 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.uni-kl.de 131.246.9.95 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.uni-stuttgart.de 129.96.8.13 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.uni-siegen.de 141.99.128.1 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de 130.149.17.7 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.stud.fh-heilbronn.de 141.7.1.41 pub/aminet/
Germany ftp.tu-chemnitz.de 192.108.33.193 pub/aminet/
UK ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk 146.169.2.1 pub/aminet/
UK micros.hensa.ac.uk 148.88.8.84 pub/aminet/
(*) closed 6:30am to 4pm weekdays
or try Searching gopherspace with ARCHIE, VERONICA, or JUGHEAD!
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